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YNWaN
Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:24:22 AM


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hifistan wrote:
The RubiKon only caters to Linn or Naim arms, or is this incorrect?


No, Rega and SME cuts will also be available.

100% analogue
JohnG
Posted: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:41:42 PM

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Martin Colloms wrote:
Lingo 1 had an overall benefit despite some inherent , lesser loss from the switch mode power supply . I used one for quite a long time.

Less convenient but in my view better, Armageddon does most of what the lingo 1 offers but with low mains noise contribution.

How much this is an issue will depend on the system and the local mains quality.


Martin C


Hello Martin,

I'm pretty certain the Lingo uses a toroid transformer and not a switch mode power supply. I think the issue that some have with the Lingo is it's use of a mains filter which some Naim owners say adversely affects the performance of their electronics, it's certainly what Julian banged on about for years. It's interesting because of the huge number of electronic devices that can be found in the home that contain mains filters. I guess we need to unplug them all in order to enjoy our tunes.
Meh

John
FangfossFlyer
Posted: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:10:11 PM

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I have my Hi-Fi connected to a dedicated CU and when I switch off the CU that powers the rest of the house I definitely hear in an improvement in my Hi-Fi.

Richard
Martin Colloms
Posted: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:38:45 AM

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JohnG wrote:
Martin Colloms wrote:
Lingo 1 had an overall benefit despite some inherent , lesser loss from the switch mode power supply . I used one for quite a long time.

Less convenient but in my view better, Armageddon does most of what the lingo 1 offers but with low mains noise contribution.

How much this is an issue will depend on the system and the local mains quality.


Martin C


Hello Martin,

I'm pretty certain the Lingo uses a toroid transformer and not a switch mode power supply. I think the issue that some have with the Lingo is it's use of a mains filter which some Naim owners say adversely affects the performance of their electronics, it's certainly what Julian banged on about for years. It's interesting because of the huge number of electronic devices that can be found in the home that contain mains filters. I guess we need to unplug them all in order to enjoy our tunes.
Meh

John



I got Julian wrong on the SM psu , it was the filters , I looked inside mine recently and noted the small mains transformer.

thanks for the correction

MartinC
hifistan
Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:48:51 PM

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The upgrade program for my pre Cirkus LP 12 has gotten underway. This is by no means to be an assault on the state of the art but an attempt to get maximum sound for money. I have ordered a Sole sub-chassis, a MOSE/Hercules power supply and a Jelco 750D arm. I had already gotten a new belt and mat. A friend who has 30 years experience, including Linn setups is going to do the modification. Theoretically I could set up the Linn as I use to do the Ariston but that was 30 years ago. I intended to use the arm cable that came with my Graham arm as it is well made [WBT etc.] but a new cable I just purchased is sounding so good I may sell it and buy another of these. I will add a link. I got mine with Silver Bullet plugs and Clearaudio DIN. Around $250. Not broken in but very impressed with sound and workmanship. My friend sees no reason to replace the springs if they still function, I am not so sure.

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JohnG
Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:34:58 PM

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It was recommended to me that I change out the suspension parts when going to a different sub-chassis. I purchased them from an online retailer in Texas, Spinning Dog Records. The kit included: 3 suspension springs, 3 large grommets, 3 small grommets, 3 washers, and 3 M5 lock nuts. I also changed out the bearing oil as well which was also recommended by a couple very knowledgeable sources. Might be worth doing while everything is apart, cost me about $45.

The deck is bouncy very nice with the new springs. I was told they get tired after awhile and should get replaced once in awhile, mine were over 15 years old.
hifistan
Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:16:58 PM

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JohnG wrote:
It was recommended to me that I change out the suspension parts when going to a different sub-chassis. I purchased them from an online retailer in Texas, Spinning Dog Records. The kit included: 3 suspension springs, 3 large grommets, 3 small grommets, 3 washers, and 3 M5 lock nuts. I also changed out the bearing oil as well which was also recommended by a couple very knowledgeable sources. Might be worth doing while everything is apart, cost me about $45.

The deck is bouncy very nice with the new springs. I was told they get tired after awhile and should get replaced once in awhile, mine were over 15 years old.


Thanks, I'll get some. I was going to get the oil changed , forgot to mention it. I also got some stainless steel bolts from Sole.
Bigdaddynz
Posted: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:49:53 AM

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hifistan wrote:
I was going to get the oil changed .....


The Sole people also sell oil suitable for all types of Linn bearings.
hifistan
Posted: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:44:06 PM

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Bigdaddynz wrote:
hifistan wrote:
I was going to get the oil changed .....


The Sole people also sell oil suitable for all types of Linn bearings.


I got some from a Linn dealer when I ordered new springs, here any day now after volcano delay. My Sole came, looks good.
john r
Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:50:18 AM

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hifistan wrote:
Bigdaddynz wrote:
hifistan wrote:
I was going to get the oil changed .....


The Sole people also sell oil suitable for all types of Linn bearings.


I got some from a Linn dealer when I ordered new springs, here any day now after volcano delay. My Sole came, looks good.




More importantly, how do you find it sounds? Has it made your listening more enjoyable or less so?

John R
hifistan
Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:52:21 PM

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I have had a rather distracting summer, my wife has been in the hospital 3 times in the last 2 months[better now] and the project has yet to be realized. I will post the results when and if it is finished. Its progress is complicated by the fact that most of the actual modification work is being done by a friend who is a semi retired audio technician who nevertheless has a busy schedule and we have had little opportunity to get together on it.
john r
Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:50:03 PM

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Very sorry to hear about your wife's health issues but really glad she's better now! Put's life into perspective when a loved one is ill. I just wondered how things were going that's all and hoping you find it a worthwhile mod.

John R.
darkmatter
Posted: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:06:37 PM


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john r wrote:

Very sorry to hear about your wife's health issues but really glad she's better now! Put's life into perspective when a loved one is ill. I just wondered how things were going that's all and hoping you find it a worthwhile mod.

John R.


Nice note, and welcome to the forums John Smile

"Quicquid Nitet Notandum"
darkmatter
Posted: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:08:22 PM


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hifistan wrote:
I have had a rather distracting summer, my wife has been in the hospital 3 times in the last 2 months[better now] and the project has yet to be realized. I will post the results when and if it is finished. Its progress is complicated by the fact that most of the actual modification work is being done by a friend who is a semi retired audio technician who nevertheless has a busy schedule and we have had little opportunity to get together on it.


Stan, as John has said sorry to read this and glad that she is recovering, look forward to reading and following your project Smile

"Quicquid Nitet Notandum"
john r
Posted: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:11:37 PM

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darkmatter wrote:
john r wrote:

Very sorry to hear about your wife's health issues but really glad she's better now! Put's life into perspective when a loved one is ill. I just wondered how things were going that's all and hoping you find it a worthwhile mod.

John R.


Nice note, and welcome to the forums John Smile


Thank you very much darkmatter for your very nice welcome. It's nice to be here, I only wish I'd known about this forum a long time ago.

Maybe Mr Colloms and Mr Messenger would like to know more about our low cost LP12 sub-chassis?

John R
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